Shangri-La (outro) TAB

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Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby ColH on Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:39 pm

I can't find the Grandaddy version (the ending part to the ELO's vesion) of this anywhere. If anyone knows it or could figure it out that would be great! I want to know the piano part of it by the way. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby brassman2000 on Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:08 pm

Yeah I don't think anyone has ever bothered to tab this one out (much to my annoyance - all the ELO tabs end at the end of the proper song so they're no help). I think this one might require some collaboration: its a hard one!

Anyway, here goes...

So, the piano is playing arpeggios as the track fades in. I'm going to start from around 5 seconds in where you can hear the notes properly for the first time. This is C#m and the arpeggio plays like:

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       E     
     C# C#
G# G#     G#
  E         E



(the only way I can really represent pitch without resorting to actually writing out the music (which I may do later))

The next chord is A, the arpeggio starts on A:

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        E     
      C# C#
A   A      A
  E          E


The rest of the arpeggios continue in the same style. For the rest of this I'll put in the chord letter and then the starting note of the arpeggio in brackets so so far we have: C#m (G#), A (A)

C#m (G#) x2

Drums come in and we land on:

A (A) x2, F#m6 (A) (that's F# A C# D#), G#7 (G#) (that's F# G# B# D#), C#m (G#) x2

This 6 bar phrase is repeated a whole bunch of times and I don't think it changes at all until Jason starts "making it up" during the fade-out.

The bass line goes A, A G#, D#, G#, C#, C# B(repeat)

Actually, screw it I'll write it out...

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And thus ends my take on the most beautiful chord sequence ever written. It doesn't matter how much stick ELO get for being a bit crigeworthy at times and that they sometimes got their blend of classical and rock completely wrong, those 2 and a bit minutes make up for it all.

Corrections welcome and encouraged!
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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby ColH on Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:10 am

thanks! I know it was hard, but there is no song too hard for the brassman! But my computer crashed and I am using my iPod Touch. :cry:
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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby brassman2000 on Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:26 pm

Haha you're very welcome! Hope your computer gets well soon
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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby __redruM on Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:19 am

So on the guitar maybe:
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e||---------------0-----------|--------------0-----------|
B||------------2-----2--------|-----------2-----2--------|
G||*--2-----2-----------2-----|--2-----2-----------2-----|
D||*-----2-----------------2--|-----2-----------------2--|
A||---0-----------------------|--0-----------------------|
E||---------------------------|--------------4-----------|

e|--------------------------|--------------------------|
B|-----------2--4--2--------|-----------1--4--1--------|
G|--2-----2-----------2-----|--1-----1-----------1-----|
D|--1--4-----------------4--|-----4-----------------4--|
A|--------------------------|--------------------------|
E|--------------------------|--4-----------------------|

e|--------------0-----------|--------------0------------||
B|-----------2-----2--------|-----------2-----2---------||
G|--1-----1-----------1-----|--1-----1-----------1-----*||
D|-----2-----------------2--|-----2-----------------2--*||
A|--4-----------------------|--4-----------2------------||
E|--------------------------|---------------------------||


One thing in the music notation that confused me is the 4th note of the 4th measure appears to be a B#, but there isn't a B# (or at least a B# is a C). Though I will easily admit ignorance of music notation.

EDIT: It's in the text too G#7 (G#) (that's F# G# B# D#), is this a piano thing?
EDIT: Time passes and I'm more confused by music notation than ever, but the correct tab is above.
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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby brassman2000 on Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:56 am

Its just the way of the world I'm afraid - one of the most confusing and stupid aspects of music theory: The double sharp!

Apparently if you're a violinist (I'm not) then B# and C are different notes in some way other than pitch. This just serves to get on the nerves of every other musician in the world.

The chord of G major is G B D as we all know and love. The key signature has one sharp: F#.
If you go round through the key signatures you eventually reach G# major (which is off the scale and has usually been replaced by the much more friendly A-flat which has 4 flats: B, E, A and D) G# major enjoys having 8 sharps: F, C, G, D, A, E, B and F (again). So, E#, B# and F## (double sharp) are all effectively F, C and G. Hence, the chord of G# major is G#, B# (or C), D#.

Anyway, I hope that helps :) (Please don't ask why I didn't just use Ab hahaha!)
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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby brassman2000 on Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:36 pm

I've been having a play around (I never really thought about trying to play it on guitar before). I was thinking maybe it'd be easier to play/you could let the chords ring is you de-tune the high E to D# and then play...

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   D#|---------------1-----------|--------------1-----------|
    B|------------2-----2--------|-----------2-----2--------|
    G|*--2-----2-----------2-----|--2-----2-----------2-----|
    D|*-----2-----------------2--|-----2-----------------2--|
    A|---------------------------|--------------------------|
    E|---------------------------|--------------------------|


   D#|--------------0-----------|--------------0-----------|
    B|-----------2-----2--------|--------------------------|
    G|--2-----2-----------2-----|------------5---5---------|
    D|-----4-----------------4--|--6--4--6-----------6--4--|
    A|--------------------------|--------------------------|
    E|--------------------------|--------------------------|


   D#|--------------1-----------|--------------1------------||
    B|-----------2-----2--------|-----------2-----2---------||
    G|--1-----1-----------1-----|--1-----1-----------1-----*||
    D|-----2-----------------2--|-----2-----------------2--*||
    A|--------------------------|---------------------------||
    E|--------------------------|---------------------------||


Or even tune the G string up to G# as well and play...

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   D#|---------------1-----------|--------------1-----------|
    B|------------2-----2--------|-----------2-----2--------|
   G#|*--1-----1-----------1-----|--1-----1-----------1-----|
    D|*-----2-----------------2--|-----2-----------------2--|
    A|---------------------------|--------------------------|
    E|---------------------------|--------------------------|


   D#|--------------0-----------|---------------0-----------|
    B|-----------2-----2--------|-------------1---1--------|
   G#|--1-----1-----------1-----|--0-----0-----------0------|
    D|-----4-----------------4--|-----4-----------------4--|
    A|--------------------------|--------------------------|
    E|--------------------------|--------------------------|


   D#|--------------1-----------|--------------1------------||
    B|-----------2-----2--------|-----------2-----2---------||
   G#|--0-----0-----------0-----|--0-----0-----------0-----*||
    D|-----2-----------------2--|-----2-----------------2--*||
    A|--------------------------|---------------------------||
    E|--------------------------|---------------------------||


Which makes it all surprisingly easy-ish and the retuning isn't majorly drastic so its easy to put right when you're done.
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Re: Shangri-La (outro) TAB

Postby hnoor0066 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:51 am

thanks for information
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